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  • He's toxic but I am devasted without him

    RomanceDictionary.com
    Hi all,

    I am here to hear other people's views on my situation.

    I have loved this man all my life yet my entire life has been cripped by him. He was my first boyfriend. I met him when I was 17 and him 20. (This happened 3 years after I'd lost my mum, whom I loved very much). It was love at first sight for me and, sadly, he bacame "my everything". I loved him with all my heart. He promised me that we would spend our lives together. He never kept that promise - one year later he left me for another girl, who he had been seing behind my back the entire time. I was so distraught, it took me three years to recover, to come out of the dark depression I was suffering after losing him, as well as my mum.

    Seven years ago he came back into my life only to mess me up some more. I discovered, much to my horror, that he is a compulsive liar, a manipulator, who displays a shocking lack of empathy, is dependent on porn and who only seems interested in the advantages he could get from people - sex, money, holidays you name it. Yet he is extremely charming, well spoken and fun to be with. He is like a magnet to me despite the fact that he has toyed with my feelings and my life for these 7 years. He left me multiple times and would only return to me after me begging him to give ME another chance. He knows I'm addicted to him and he treats me worse and worse as a consequence.

    Now i left him but I still think that it is me who is wrong, who does not know to approach and handle him.

    I am a lot more depressed and miserable without him than I have even been while he was still in a relationship with me (however I was feeling constantly very stressed and afraid of his lies and sudden break-ups with me and everything, while he was "with me").

    I am seeing a psychologist to help me cope but she is on holiday for two weeks at present and without her help I feel like I can no longer bear to not have contact with him, to not ask him back.

    He is now in remission with a relatively dangerous type of cancer that gives him a 60% chance to live for 5 years or longer so I feel like we are also running out of time. He tells me that he loves me but doesn't know how to show it in a way recognisable to me. I miss him like mad and I am sinking into the depths of despair without him.

    We are now 46 and 49 years old.

    I can't stop crying while typing this, please, please help me. I have loved this man my entire life and I do not know what to do to stop this excruciating pain.

    thank you.
    Last edited by LostYears; 03-11-2018, 03:57 PM.

  • #2
    This man has caused you so much pain but yet you still love him so much. I really don't think you love him as much as you think you do. The reason you feel you love him so much is because you haven't found another man who will love and cherish you. The fact is that, if you don't breakup with him, you won't give other men opportunity to come into your life.

    So, make the decision today to quit this toxic relationship.

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    • #3
      Toxic relationships are battle-grounds mistaken for what is thought of as love in which the personality-disordered and the non-personality disordered come together, intersect, interconnect and increase each other's pain and suffering no matter how hard they try to make things work. (Sometimes both parties in a toxic relationship are in fact personality-disordered.)

      The dynamic is such that it is engulfing and pervasive in its ritualistic patterned familiarity. Each person involved in a toxic relationship is an individual, of course, and yet to the observer of the foundational patterns of these relationships - the twists and turns are so predictable that they could well appear as if they'd been scripted and everyone had read the same book kind of thing.

      Many people don't realize when they get wrapped up in the painful chaos of these kinds of relationships is that it is the very familiarity of that pain and chaos that paradoxically attracts and repels you, enlivens you and exhausts you, that pulls you in and pushes you out.

      The legacy of toxic relating has its roots in the unfinished business of childhood.

      This legacy endures for many for years in people's adult lives and relationships because of what are known as repetition compulsions. People are actually, often without being aware of it, by way of repeating cyclical behavior based upon distorted ways of thinking and perceiving inter-personal relating trying to work out unresolved childhood emotional and psychological dynamics and issues by continually repeating these enmeshed, often abusive, toxic patterns in friendships and adult relationships.

      For the personality-disordered it is the only way that they know how to relate. For those who do not have personality disorders, but who do, more often than not have codependency issues that are tip of the iceberg of what are deeper unresolved issues from childhood the fit between them and the personality-disorders is a precast psychological mold that merely awaits your jumping right in to it.

      And jump into it people do. There is fit between those who were raised in toxic dysfunctional and abusive homes who do not develop personality disorders and those who are raised in toxic dysfunctional families and do develop and get diagnosed with a personality disorder. After all, what is the essential difference between the personality-disordered and those who get involved in the toxic and often trauma bonded and fantasy bonded dysfunctional relationships that are more the norm these days?

      The only difference in the arena of toxic relating between the personality-disordered and their partners is the personality disorder itself. The backgrounds, the home lives, the unresolved past issues often have many common themes and common manifestations of woundedness in varying degrees.

      This is why the dance is such that many people with or without a personality disorder will go through series of these type of toxic dysfunctional and chaotic relationships. The legacy of unresolved childhood pain and attachment issues is this dance of codependency that reflects toxic love and not healthy love. Often those in these toxic relational dynamics really do not have a mature understanding of what healthy love is.

      It is the familiarity that truly breeds the contempt.

      The contempt that the personality-disordered and the non-personality-disordered develop for each other as each regresses to past unresolved issues at each other (which really has all to do with issues that each partner has with a parent and the reality that they are relating to that parent and not even seeing each other) to the point that the past is so prevalent in the present that the now gets totally lost. Who each partner is in a toxic relationship is lost to the partner being related to as if he or she was that parent-figure. While this is very central in Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) and Narcissistic Personality Disorder variations to lessor degrees do play out from non-personality-disordered as well. For the non-personality-disordered person involved with someone with BPD they are referred to as non borderlines or BPD loved ones.

      The legacy of toxic relationships starts before we even realize that there is a devastating problem or untold emotional pain and further abuse and psychological woundedness. The legacy of toxic relating is carried from the past by so many people now that what is seen when they meet each other and begin to "fall in love" is really not about "love" it is really about that familiarity to a parent whose "love" one was never able to attain. That's what the chase is about. That's why it all feels so compelling and the rush to "love" (really it's love/hate) is on to get into a relationship (that is really going to be very painful and an emotional war.)

      The other facet of the legacy of toxic relationships, of course, is the damage done and the untold pain suffered in these relationships as adults. If you are in a toxic relationship now, or have been recently, and you are still hurting, angry, or grieving, ask yourself what it was that was so familiar that it hooked you so totally that you ignored your own instincts, your own intellectual reasoning, your own spiritual knowing - what was so compelling? What was so compelling to or for you that you ignored all the red flags?

      What is it from your own past that led you to enmesh with someone in a situation in which you simultaneously handed your self over to someone else and threw your self away? Are you afraid of being alone?

      When you find the answer to that question you will discover the true nature of the legacy of toxic relating from your past. You will also discover how and why you made the choices that you did. You will make a connection back to pain that you can gain more awareness about, grieve, express in healthier ways and learn to let go of it. You will then know better.

      When you know better you will do better. Your understanding will have been hard-fought for and you will learn what you need to learn, in time. Much of what people have to learn to free themselves from toxic relationships and their legacy includes boundaries, the difference between abuse and respect, the difference between mutuality and broken mutuality. Surrendering to the reality that the only person that you can change is yourself.

      The reality for those who are the non-personality-disordered side of toxic relationships is that there is something about your experience in life that led you to make what you now know were self-defeating, self-destructive choices. Many non-personality-disordered people end up trying to rescue the toxic person in their lives because they are trying to avoid their own loss.

      The legacy of toxic relationships is all-too-often wrapped up in what becomes a blame game. The dilemma of escape is really what should be of paramount importance. It is only after these kinds of relationships have been ended that each person can go their own way and really get their own healing work done.

      The legacy of toxic relationships is one that compounds what is already unresolved pain from your past whether you are aware of this or its roots in your life or not. The reality of this compounded legacy is that as you try to escape the relationship and its pain you seek relief while paradoxically needing to get in touch with the source of your unresolved pain.

      The legacy of these relationships is very painful. The legacy of these relationships over and above the pain, the drama, and the endless and equally compelling chaos (many people become addicted to the chaos without realizing this) is the reality of the lessons that you need to seek after by living your questions so that you can find the answers you need to heal what you need to heal so that you can find healthier relationships and so that you can truly come to a reasonable working-definition of what love is versus all that it is not.

      The legacy of any and all toxic relating is deep, profound, and can be lasting if it is not actively healed and recovered from. To heal and to recover both the personality-disordered and the non-personality-disordered must look within and stop laying blame with each other.

      The legacy of toxic relationships is that the love perceived and sought after, wasn't healthy love at all - it was toxic love. This toxic love speaks loudly to the intra-psychic woundedness of the young inner child in both the personality disordered and the non-personality-disordered.

      Each must do his or her own work to heal and recover. Each has issues that while similar are not exactly the same but then when mixed surely make for an intensity that is by its very chaotic and dramatic nature toxic - compelling to the point of all-consuming, and extremely dangerous. Toxic relational dynamics include a high degree of codependency that can even be addictive. Addictive in that focusing on and trying to change or rescue someone else is not only self-defeating it is self-sacrificing in ways that will leave you emotionally and psychologically suffering and out of balance.

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      • LostYears
        LostYears commented
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        Enlightening, all of it. My psychologist suspects that this guy is a sociopath and that my losses in early life lead me to becoming trauma-bonded to him. Cognitive dissonance is also a big issue for me but I have not found the way out yet: My heart says he is the love of my life, my head says he is a nasty creature.

        Is the above text past of a book? I might benefit from reading it.

        Thanks a lot for your elaborated and truly enlightening message!

    • #4
      RomanceDictionary.com
      Originally posted by Sofia View Post
      This man has caused you so much pain but yet you still love him so much. I really don't think you love him as much as you think you do. The reason you feel you love him so much is because you haven't found another man who will love and cherish you. The fact is that, if you don't breakup with him, you won't give other men opportunity to come into your life.

      So, make the decision today to quit this toxic relationship.
      Hi Sofia, my circumstance are complex at present but you are right, I might be able to find real love if i moved away from him( I did find genuine love in the past when he was away from my life and I spent nine years in a stable, respectful relationship. My feelings however were no near so strong for that man as they are for my first love, the one who is toxic. He is magnetic to me but this is not healthy). I need to think about the opportunities I might miss while I hold on desperately to him.

      thank you for your support! x

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