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    I expect to be flamed for what I will write, but I'm also hoping to get some useful feedback. I'm not looking for "do this" type of advice or unsupported assertions. But, hey, say what you want. I'm a big boy and I can take it.

    I am in my mid 50s. I take care of myself and look quite a bit younger. I can easily pass for being 10 years younger, even 15. I often lie about my age when I meet a girl. I am engaged to a woman in her early 30s (who does know my age, of course) who lives geographically far from me until the end of the year. Lately I started seeing a girl in her late 20s that I met at a grocery store. We have had sex a few times and I plan to keep seeing her until my fiance arrives. I have not told either about the other. I also had sex with a couple of other girls (one mid thirties, the other 21) a week ago, that I met online (no money involved in case you're wondering).

    I don't feel too great about what I've been doing, but neither am I wracked with guilt. I believe that the norms of our society try to squeeze people into a monogamous mold that many don't fit. I think that monogamy is a relatively recent phenomenon (maybe the last 200 years) in America and most of the West. I think as humans, who are not naturally monogamous try to do that which is unnatural, dissatisfaction and heartache ensue. Males, in particular, provide the most benefit to the species, in terms of raw numbers, by having sex with multiple partners. I'll admit that child rearing is an important function of organisms as well, however. 100 years ago poor people desperately needed to mate and reproduce to ensure their own survival, let alone that of their offspring. That is not true anymore. Women can raise children on their own, allowing men to seek other (in many cases younger) sexual partners.

    One might say that I am just looking for excuses to do what I'm doing. I wouldn't say that's correct. I am generally unhappy with my life. Although I've had sex with 51 women, including 18 years monogamously with just one, I am alone much of the time and have sex on average only 10 times/year. I know I would have more sex and not be alone if I was in a monogamous relationship. I hope to achieve that with my fiance, but of course I have my doubts. Meanwhile, the local girl, who thinks I'm in my early 40s, is pretty cute and fun. She goes to the gym everyday and has a cute personality. We have fun together. I hate to think about the pain that will eventually befall her. I usually cry when I hurt a girl, but not in front of them. I am capable of empathy I think, but ultimately I am selfish and will lie to get what I want (sex).

    I think that our culture would function better if people no longer bought into the myth of lifetime monogamy. I think people could live together in groups (polygamous in some cases), and have companionship, fellowship, and even love, without the artificial expectation of prince and princess charming living happily ever after.

    Even if you don't agree, can you identify with or relate to any of this?
    Last edited by bdog; 05-18-2018, 01:50 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by bdog View Post
    I think that our culture would function better if people no longer bought into the myth of lifetime monogamy.
    I concur with you on this, people are caged in an institution called marriage. They make it seem as though everyone must be married, but that shouldn't be the case most of the time.

    However, If I were in your age I will quickly settle down with one partner because you need someone to take care of you while you grow older. You are already in your mid 50's and soon you won't be able to do the thing you do now, and you will also become unattractive to women.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by bdog View Post
      I hate to think about the pain that will eventually befall her.
      So, why don't you breakup with her now and save her the heartbreak? The more you keep her, the more harm you do to her.

      Also, I totally disagree with your idea of polygamy. It's not good for mankind!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Elliot View Post

        I concur with you on this, people are caged in an institution called marriage. They make it seem as though everyone must be married, but that shouldn't be the case most of the time.

        However, If I were in your age I will quickly settle down with one partner because you need someone to take care of you while you grow older. You are already in your mid 50's and soon you won't be able to do the thing you do now, and you will also become unattractive to women.
        This is definitely a concern of mine. I am in pretty good shape but not what I was 10 years ago. I’m not getting any younger. I look 40 (with or without my shirt on) but much of the time I feel mid 50s. I should settle down with just one for the reasons you state and others.

        OTOH, when I first became single in my mid 40s I thought my shelf life with girls in their 20s was limited but here I am a decade later still bedding them from time to time. So why stop?

        My self esteem is also fragile. Right after a new conquest I think I’m such a badass but that can crash quickly with rejection and I can feel pitiful and pathetic.

        What’s weird is that I’m actually a pretty cool guy to be around. I’m a decent conversationalist and can be witty and funny. I have been an above average BF a couple of times.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gloria View Post

          So, why don't you breakup with her now and save her the heartbreak? The more you keep her, the more harm you do to her.

          Also, I totally disagree with your idea of polygamy. It's not good for mankind!
          i guess I thought answered that. I don’t want to be alone and I want to have sex.

          i don’t think I said it was good for mankind. In fact, I think monogamy would be best for mankind in many ways. But i don’t think it’s natural and it’s difficult to sustain without artificial constraints like contrived social norms, the need to survive or strong religious beliefs.

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          • #6
            I thought the local girl didn't want to see me anymore, but I wrong. I didn't text her for over a day and she texted me. We have plans for tomorrow.

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            • #7

              I wish someone would respond, but maybe there is nothing to say. I probably will keep doing what I'm doing any way. I feel like a POS now. The local girl and I hung out for a while, then she told me flat out she didn't want to see me anymore. I went into her work and sent a couple nice texts and we've been seeing each other and having sex again for a couple weeks. I am pretty fond of her. We have grown close, sharing things about our childhoods and things like that.

              I keep thinking about ending things with the fiance, but when things aren't going well with the local girl, I'm glad I haven't done that yet. Nevertheless, she has sensed something is up.

              Meanwhile, I have a date with yet another girl tomorrow, while the local girl is at work. I met this one at a grocery store and had a drink with her a week ago.

              I think I am heading for a melt down. I rightly and obviously tell myself this isn't sustainable. Well, duh. But I keep doing it because I can't stand being alone and I want to have sex. I went to a concert with one of my only male friends tonight. I hang out with him 2-3 times per month, but it is not particularly fulfilling. Furthermore, I am the one asking him to hang out 80% of the time.

              I hate what I'm doing but I suspect I'll keep doing it. Sometimes I think God will strike me down or something. I guess I almost hope he would. I wish there was something besides myself that would make me stop.

              Bill

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